Oh Hungary, you and your developed land filled with claims which just so, unfortunately, sit right next to me. You can beat them in the early, middle, or late game. After you declare war on Morocco, focus on landing an army on Sicily and taking down the Spanish and Moroccan holdings in Africa. You can also take some holdings on the Arabian peninsula to make future conquest easier. In my game, Austria has been beaten down and is pretty tiny, Russia is getting slowly annexed by me and the Malmuks aren't doing much. Simply take some Spanish lands and repeat after the truce timer runs out. Tell them not to get called into their stupid offensive wars so that youre not caught off guard. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. In my game, I had a problem. Not to mention their ability to tech like hell. I always take Quality + Innovative for that insane +20% Infantry Combat Ability policy. I also guaranteed the Moroccans, to prevent Spain from consolidating its foothold in the Meditteranean. You can attack the Spanish head-on, but this might bring in some difficult allies. The Ottomans are at such a crossroads of trade routes that good trade can make them very very wealthy. Engage when you have a clear advantage and use your massive amounts of vassals. I'm the 3rd great power in the world and they're the 1st. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Good allies can be helpful to overwhelm them. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. These vassals make up your siege troops. Which, if any, DLC do you have? It's kind of irrelevant though, because even though I have almost two times the total development of the Ottomans, they still have a much larger army and stronger allies. The decision makes your country more stable and lets you easily convert all your lands to Sunni if you didnt take humanist ideas before or are really into that. Now what you wanna do in your position is to only defend in rough terrain, such as hills, highlands, and mountains(Southern Hungary and Greece are good for this, along with the Caucuses), and to increase your army quality with idea groups, advisors, and religion (Protestant for 2.5% discipline and 5% morale if you have the common sense dlc, and Orthodox for 5% discipline and 33% manpower if you have Third Rome dlc. How good is your economy? This part of the guide may look completely different from mine. You wouldn't have much issue at all. Its useful for you to take this before a rising threat, Russia, can show itself. They are inferior later on. Then declare (3-4 months later) and invade the opposite front. Tbh, quality troops will usually win wars against the Ottomans. Thing is, I don't think there is an easy fix to this because, as I said, optimal play happenes as a consequence of how the game is designed. Allies are arguably the most important point. 43.9K subscribers Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). After that you can trucebreak and catch their troops between you and and the rebels. I've already taken aristocratic, espionage, humanist, quality, and expansion ideas. Uncover the secrets of Hidegpuszta in this classic survival horror, Remorse: The List. Fortunately, the Tunisians cant be everywhere at once. I never take military idea groups, and I've still managed to take all of their provinces in campaign after campaign. Istanbul isnt the problem (obviously), and Rome should be easy takings with your dominance in the Mediterranean. Unfortunately not everyone is able to buy all of them. You basically become unstoppable if you avoid unfavourable offensive terrain battles. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission to. The Ottoman troops are better than European troops for a large part of the game because of their bonuses, and the fact that they have increased pips. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Note :In The runs with Prussia and Great Britain I beat the Ottomans in the last 10-20 years of the campaign, And another thing that I forgot to mention. Make sure you are not behind their mil tech level or you will be destroyed, as such it's recommended you weaken them early, They tend to pick a discipline advisor to combo with their 5% discipline tradition, recommend to get as much morale as you can, Use terrain/good generals to your advantage, Get as many good alliances as possible but never declare if they are behind the ottomans in mil tech, You can deny their cores, which is one of the main sources of their strength, You can call a crusade against them if you're the pope which can give you good bonuses. I can see the benefits both ways, but this is usually how I play it. After you dealt with the Mamluks, youre the only Great Power left in Arabia. If you share borders, build some forts and have some battles with -1/-2 modifiers. Avoid the war goal on purpose, occupy Constantinople + Turkish provinces only. However, history wont stop us! After Military Tech 16 (I believe?) I'm just trying out Muscovy once more after not having played for while and lo and behold the Ottoblobs get Crimea for free. Welcome to the third and final part of this Ottomans guide for EU4: The Ottomans made easy! Play your cards right, and you'll be on your way to restoring the Caliphate. They hit a mid game power peak typically that's hard to beat, this is not the best time to try fighting them. Stack up on military ideas and policies (for example quality + religious gives extra morale and siege ability) so despite my lower army size they are vastly superior in quality. Ifni is a very poor province, so it doesnt cost much to take. Prussian troops stackwipe Ottos easy in the 1600s. If you manage to get to around 60% war score, then you could demand a province with a fort that you haven't occupied. With a strong navy you can win half the war (or more accurately, 25%, because that's what you'll get for fully blockading them). Make sure to take the cities ofAdenandMasqatas soon as you can, since you need them to restore the Caliphate. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. and since my goals are quite small and achievable I usually. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. The rest of Europe was functionally cowed because after the first war I could just keep fighting them over and over and over again without them putting up a huge response. I've read several ways. This is part 3 of the Ottomans made easy EU4 guide. So their tech 12 infantry are the same pips as western tech 15, giving you parity, until tech 19 when you can edge ahead. Moscow is a tougher nut to crack focus on core conquest to make your way into Russia and take the city. Move your army in position and declare war to retake a Transylvanian core like Hunyad. Let me know your thoughts in the comments! Focus on taking away their economic base. their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Your situation might differ from mine, but I had to deal with a massive Timurids that united all of Persia. Cav are kinda weak at techs 14 to 16, making their cav combat ability less scary (they also miss a cav upgrade at 14). The better player you are, the more attention you pay to all of this aspects. Going to war with them when they are in another big-ish war on another front helps a lot. This will also split up their empire in two, which will weaken them considerably. Get them to a high war exhaustion and then white peace them. Most states are weak, meaning you can diplomatically conquer most of them.. Once youve taken the east coast of Arabia, you can complete the mission toConquer Al-Ahsa. I wanted to do this without wasting my manpower so I can finish off England, France and Poland right after. There're a dozen different factors that go into something like this, and without a photo, it's very difficult to gauge. Ottomans also tend not to upgrade forts so it's relatively quick sieging. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. If I put all of my allies into one battle (Me, France, Venice, Nogai, Genoa) then I might have a chance, but now I've had to dissolve the Venice alliance so I didn't get dragged into a war with just me and Venice. As any war would just be you and them vs the Ottoman. If you had a strong Russia, France, and Austria. When you attack a mountain, or a fort, or -worse- a mountain fort, you have a good chance to be defeated. Ally a powerful nation nearby, such as Great Britain or Scandinavia, and snake your way to Paris from a coastal province. You wont gain cores on them, butDagestan is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. Then you peace out, take nothing and watch the rebels spawn. their units start to not keep up with different tech groups making them weaker. What nation are you playing as? Siege down weak Tunis (and Ottos if you can), then make Ottos break treaties with all their powerful allies. Early game there's always the classic no-CB DOW Byzantium strategy. I was sowing discontent Ottoman Empire right from the get go, but at this point I started funneling my extremely large treasury into supporting the Ottoman rebellion. Spain will be the toughest nut youll have to crack in this entire campaign and kind of the final boss of this EU4 Ottomans guide. EUIV: AAR's, Let's Plays, and Fan Fiction, EU IV: Alternate History Short Story Contest Contr. Through, ideas, you can make your country less prone to revolt and wealthier. how do you deal with ottomans when they take quantity ideas? , that you get when youve conquered the southern coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Aside from this generic advice, be sure to check whether you can accidentally vassalize your allies. Don't let them. to grant you a bunch more permanent claims all around. The Ottomans tend to be hard to beat around the mid game, when they build up their Jannisaries (sp?) With these claims, youll get a great opportunity to expand your holdings when the, fires. From 1500 onwards, its time to fight anything, anywhere, all the time. needs you to core Rome, Moscow, and Istanbul. If you can't get to them early, you may need to wait till later in the game. The Ottomans are in a precarious position because they need to essentially control two land masses that are not easily accessible. And while it's faster than walking, it can still take like two years if you need to get your one main fleet back from the East Indies to Europe, which can be really annoying. You can take small coastal ports when you peace out their allies to gain an early foothold. Ideally, you managed to cripple the Spanish armies trapped in Morocco, so the Spanish may not put up much of a fight. If you have questions do please leave them below and I will answer any and all that I'm able to! THIS CAMPAIGN IS BEST VIEWED THROUGH THE PLAYLIST! The Serbians, Bulgarians and Greeks can easily be swayed to revolt if you let the Ottomans drown in war exhaustion, keep them occupied, wait for the rebels to rise up, then sign a peace and let them deal with the problem. I think at one point I just did nothing but go to war with them for 50 years as Germany. If you gather your army in many small stacks consisting of 30k each and slowly but steadily march your way to Constantinople, Ottos will likely do the same. After you dealt with Genoa, you can complete the mission Conquer Caffa for a temporary trade power boost in the Black Sea. I can understand the complaints about micro-managing, and it's especially true if you're colonial, but that's a consequence of choice in some sense. It's the transport ships that give me headache. That and Quality should give you some pretty good troops. Only having 49k is little. If there's any blob near him, they usually have him rivaled, allowing easy alliance. Just tried this out but the blasted PLC AI was hell bent on losing and had to delete the save since I'd already given up half my country to separate peace Aragon. Keep some stacks in Europe and the Middle-East, to combat any Spanish troops should they decide to do a naval invasion. Next, occupy Constantinople and vassalize Byzantium. Try to disconnect their capital from asia. Yeah, they like doing that. 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More governing capacity means more states, and more states means more money. is a province you will need to retake the Caliphate. The only way to stop the Ottomans is to overwhelm them on multiple fronts, since their armies are pretty much always superior to any other nations, even when massively outnumbered. Let's play Europa Universalis IV (EU4) as the Ottomans! Best time to hit them is in the first 50 years of the game, and the last 100 years of the game. The only exception to this rule would be Russia and ONLY Russia, but that's cause of just the massive amount of troops they can put out, especially with quantity, allowing them to easily overrun the Ottomans in a war, though at a massive cost. JavaScript is disabled. The Ottomans are very susceptible to blockades because they have such a big coastline. Not saying quantity is worse, cause quantity is AMAZING for what it does, which is usually worth it for countries with either eh or downright shitty land and therefore economies, but outclassing the Ottomans is the key to victory in this case. I believe I read one time that war exhaustion goes down in relation to your demands, so you if demand nothing then you hope their country explodes in rebels. However, you might have other priorities, and Tunis gains wiggle room. I wasn't attacked even once during my sieges and once I scored 100% I liberated some countries and absorbed enough provinces to get me to around 100% over extension. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. If you are fiercly religious don't make it your mission to take their clay and convert it but force their country to answer to your god. Always check whether someone is willingly letting itself be annexed by you. Make sure you get enough ships. Make sure you are stable both in terms of unrest and economy and move your armies to Morocco. Moreover, it will anger our next target of expansion: Tunis. You need to win those navy encounters fast. This war can be tricky, so it can be useful to curry favors with important allies that can distract the Spanish, like France, Russia, Britain, or even Bohemia, Scandinavia, or Naples. Valve Corporation. Keep attacking them as soon as that truce is up. In around 225 hours of EU4 I have not once beaten the Ottomans, mind you. A mysterious list, a small Hungarian town, and unimaginable horror. Techs that give tactics are also a nice advantage, but not as big of an advantage as morale. After all, it was my first time playing this game. . It may not display this or other websites correctly. Integrate the vassal after theyve cored all of Sudan for you since hanging on to Ethiopia will be trouble for them. Ally other countries that have navies. I strongly recommend keeping Oman around as a vassal for the time being theres a good chance theyll be the last nation to host the Hanbali school of thought. I cant forget to mention the use of trade companies at this point. Thanks for the help :). I was just bribed to stop being corrupt. In this area, you may want to expand recklessly to the point that it nearly breaks your nation. I knew espionage as last idea group and I figured it wasn't worth it, but wanted to try it anyway for fun. Even with my main allies France and Venice (60kish each) we're still not as powerful as them combined. I allied Lithuania and attacked Ottoman Empire that was allied with Tunis and Crete. I personally wouldn't ally (all) big nations around the Ottoman. And dont forget to fabricate a claim, of course. To maximize your trade income, consider addingWealth of Nations to your DLC list! I'm currently playing a commonwealth run and even dominating muscovy (they still exist but not really) and colonizing siberia, they have double the army/manpower size i do. I still had Ajam as a vassal, which gets cores on much of Iran. The last thing he needs is for an opportunistic Austria + friends to form a coalition, even if it's inccurred making a DoW against Otto, and then have to deal with large stacks of rebels in the midst of two wars. Continue building up your army as the force limit grows, but beware of your dependence on janissaries. It's probably a bit late now anyway, once I finish my first game I'm getting a couple of the DLCs and probably not playing as Lithuania again. Form Russia and own all of Asia by the end of 1820, defeat the Ottomans as Hungary and get Jerusalem and Mecca. This campaign in EU4 is designed around a slower playstyle by myself, Chewy, and doing my best to explain the basics of EU4 while building upon them through actual gameplay. 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